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talk.politics.guns
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Today's topics:

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Obama Heralds New Era of Extreme Insolence and Surliness for Africans
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/b66eaf70764a676a?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 8:02 pm
From: Twibil

On Nov 5, 2:48 pm, 567ytryt...@googlemail.com wrote:

> I can (kind of) understand the racial pride thing because it makes me
> proud and humbled to vote knowing what the women who went before me
> sacrificed so that I have the privilege. But I don't get the
> deliberate bating and insolent behavior."

Tell you what: We'll throw you and all of your decendants into
slavery
for a few hundred years, use your best-looking daughters for sex toys
and the ugly ones for mules, whip your sons into properly servile
attitudes, castrate the ones who have an attitude, forbid you your
own
religion and teach you ours that says you're an inferior animal and
that God *wants* you in slavery, and use anyone who objects to the
whole arraingement as targets, or, better yet, as object lessons that
our sadists can publicly torture to death for being "uppity".

Then after "freedom" arrives, we'll continue the same treatment for
another hundred and fifty years or until someone of *your* race is
finally elected to the highest office in the land.

Finally, after having gone through all that, get back to us on how
you
feel about "deliberate baiting and insolent behavior".

(Hint: They ain't slaves any more, troll.)

==============================================================================
TOPIC: wouldn't bailout cause huge inflation?
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/334a6df4907216d2?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 8:06 pm
From: "DockScience"

"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:48fca6fd$0$5476$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
> the bush govt has pumped in one trillion into the economy. where did this
> trillion come from? surely bush did not earn it to donate to the ailing
> american economy: he printed the money. now this printed trillion is no
> less than one tenth of the national debt. and same as the national budget.
>
> so, wouldn't this bailout cause masive inflation? how should we all
> prepare ourselves for it?

The trillion has not been pumped yet. Very few actual payments have been
made.

And where does it come from? Borrowing.
If the T-bills aren't purchased, the trillion isn't there.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: obama victory is impressive
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/7baec16f892beec4?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 8:10 pm
From: "Cole Firearms Inc."

Judge Piglet wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:38:31 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
> <colefirearms11@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Judge Piglet wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:00:28 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
>>><colefirearms11@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Fiftycal@abcnnbcbs.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:00:58 -0800 (PST), Old Pif <OldPif@gmail.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Nov 5, 4:22 pm, Stray Dog <sdog2...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, harmony wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:59:15 -0600
>>>>>>>>From: harmony <a...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
>>>>>>>> talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: obama victory is impressive
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>what obama promised - and can very likely deliver - is sound economic
>>>>>>>>"plumbing" at the wall street.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't want to be pessimistic, but the mess is very very serious and
>>>>>>>there are still a lot of special interests that don't want ANY form of
>>>>>>>govt regulation, but they all have their hands held out for money, no
>>>>>>>matter where it comes from.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There are a lot of enthusiasm out there. Might be totally unfounded.
>>>>>>People would like "to take part". How they could? What Joe the Plumber
>>>>>>can contribute other than do his plumbing well, on time and at low
>>>>>>cost. But whether he will have customers?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Got any "IMPEACH OBAMA" stickers yet?
>>>>
>>>>We don't need to impeach him, obama is not an American citizen.
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes he is.
>>>Prove otherwise.
>>
>>He was born in kenya, his mother was 14 at the time, he doesn't have an
>>American birth cirtificate, he doesn't have an American passport. The
>>governer of hawaii is aware of all this and is hiding the evidence.
>
>
>
> Prove it.

There is currently a lawsuit trying to make him prove all this and more.

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:04 pm
From: Judge Piglet

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:10:56 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
<colefirearms11@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Judge Piglet wrote:
>> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:38:31 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
>> <colefirearms11@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Judge Piglet wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:00:28 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
>>>><colefirearms11@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Fiftycal@abcnnbcbs.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:00:58 -0800 (PST), Old Pif <OldPif@gmail.com>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Nov 5, 4:22 pm, Stray Dog <sdog2...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, harmony wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:59:15 -0600
>>>>>>>>>From: harmony <a...@hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
>>>>>>>>> talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: obama victory is impressive
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>what obama promised - and can very likely deliver - is sound economic
>>>>>>>>>"plumbing" at the wall street.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I don't want to be pessimistic, but the mess is very very serious and
>>>>>>>>there are still a lot of special interests that don't want ANY form of
>>>>>>>>govt regulation, but they all have their hands held out for money, no
>>>>>>>>matter where it comes from.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There are a lot of enthusiasm out there. Might be totally unfounded.
>>>>>>>People would like "to take part". How they could? What Joe the Plumber
>>>>>>>can contribute other than do his plumbing well, on time and at low
>>>>>>>cost. But whether he will have customers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Got any "IMPEACH OBAMA" stickers yet?
>>>>>
>>>>>We don't need to impeach him, obama is not an American citizen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes he is.
>>>>Prove otherwise.
>>>
>>>He was born in kenya, his mother was 14 at the time, he doesn't have an
>>>American birth cirtificate, he doesn't have an American passport. The
>>>governer of hawaii is aware of all this and is hiding the evidence.
>>
>>
>>
>> Prove it.
>
>There is currently a lawsuit trying to make him prove all this and more.

I'll say again. Prove it.

¿Por qué el Dios del Oriente Medio tiene que ser el Dios para todos?
¿No es eso un poco arrogante?

The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius Pigglesworth, presiding

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TOPIC: => The ONLY good Repugnikkkan is a DEAD Repugnikkkan ! <= here comes
the pain, you lowlife shitsucking neocunts!
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/c82c0f8467a3474c?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 8:19 pm
From: "Reality_Check©"

Jim Alder wrote:
> "W Spilman" <fart@stink.com> wrote in news:491193bc$0$5293
> $9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com:
>
>> "Jim Alder" <jimalder@ssnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9B4D1A026F009jimaldersssnetcom@216.196.97.142...
>>> "Reality_Check©" <Reality@Check.it> wrote in news:6nct8hFl2nq3U1
>>> @mid.individual.net:
>>>
>>>> America's long national nightmare of the Criminal Bu$h Junta is
>>>> over.
>>>>
>>>> Now is time to identify, round-up, arrest, waterboard, imprison,
>>>> convict and execute every mother fuckin' one of the neo-con
>>>> repukes and their supporters.
>>>>
>>>> We shall NEVER forget, nor rest, until they are ALL brought to
>>>> righteous JUSTICE.
>>>
>>> Because hate is all you understand. Winning an election means
>>> nothing to you. You still need someone to hate. Your whole party
>>> is based on that.
>>
>> We love America. When someone violates the law and tries to
>> weaken America and her Constitution then they must be brought
>> to justice. Its all about protecting the America we love, not about
>> hate.
>> WS
>
> You personally may feel that way. But in the past eight years the
> hate and vitriole comning from the Left has been a driving force.
> American failures, both economical and military, have been encouraged
> and welcomed by Liberals and Democrats.

Why do you hate America, eh Repug ?

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:17 pm
From: "Morton Davis"

"Judge Piglet" <pontius@uscb.edu> wrote in message
news:50o2h45eedkcl95ecsuitd7o6to5e8kh6c@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:33:25 -0600, Jim Alder <jimalder@ssnet.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Reality_Check©" <Reality@Check.it> wrote in news:6nct8hFl2nq3U1
>>@mid.individual.net:
>>
>>> America's long national nightmare of the Criminal Bu$h Junta is over.
>>>
>>> Now is time to identify, round-up, arrest, waterboard, imprison, convict
>>> and
>>> execute
>>> every mother fuckin' one of the neo-con repukes and their supporters.
>>>
>>> We shall NEVER forget, nor rest, until they are ALL brought to righteous
>>> JUSTICE.
>>
>> Because hate is all you understand. Winning an election means nothing
>> to
>>you. You still need someone to hate. Your whole party is based on that.
>
>
> And was is the GOP policy? sleaziness, libel, treachery... but no
> matter.

No. That's the DNC mantra, FUCKTARD.
<plonk>

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TOPIC: obama not a citizen
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/588907131a55ec3f?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 8:22 pm
From: "Cole Firearms Inc."

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=obama+not+a+citizen&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f&aq=f#

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:03 pm
From: Judge Piglet

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:22:45 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
<colefirearms11@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=obama+not+a+citizen&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f&aq=f#

We've been through all this. You need to move on.

¿Por qué el Dios del Oriente Medio tiene que ser el Dios para todos?
¿No es eso un poco arrogante?

The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius Pigglesworth, presiding

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:08 pm
From: "Cole Firearms Inc."

Cole Firearms Inc. wrote:
> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=obama+not+a+citizen&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f&aq=f#
>
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=obama+not+a+citizen&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f&aq=f#

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:17 pm
From: "Reality_Check©"

Cole Firearms Inc. wrote:
> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=obama+not+a+citizen&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f&aq=f#

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:19 pm
From: "Cole Firearms Inc."

Reality_Check© wrote:
> Cole Firearms Inc. wrote:
>
>>http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=obama+not+a+citizen&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f&aq=f#
>
>
>
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7138767812060707572&ei=9n0SSbnJKKGI-gHHtcXqAg&q=obama+not+a+citizen&hl=en

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:24 pm
From: "Reality_Check©"

Cole Firearms Inc. wrote:
> Reality_Check© wrote:
>> Cole Firearms Inc. wrote:
>>
>>> http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=obama+not+a+citizen&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f&aq=f#
>>
>>
>>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7138767812060707572&ei=9n0SSbnJKKGI-gHHtcXqAg&q=obama+not+a+citizen&hl=en

Why Senator John McCain Cannot Be President: Eleven Months and a
Hundred Yards Short of Citizenship

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract-id=1157621

Gabriel J. Chin
University of Arizona - James E. Rogers College of Law; University of
Arizona - School of Public Administration and Policy

Arizona Legal Studies Discussion Paper No. 08-14

Abstract:

Senator McCain was born in 1936 in the Canal Zone to U.S. citizen
parents. The Canal Zone was territory controlled by the United States,
but it was not incorporated into the Union.

As requested by Senator McCain's campaign, distinguished
constitutional lawyers Laurence Tribe and Theodore Olson examined the
law and issued a detailed opinion offering two reasons that Senator
McCain was a natural born citizen.

Neither is sound under current law. The Tribe-Olson Opinion suggests
that the Canal Zone, then under exclusive U.S. jurisdiction, may have
been covered by the Fourteenth Amendment's grant of citizenship to
"all persons born . . . in the United States." However, in the Insular
Cases, the Supreme Court held that "unincorporated territories" were
not part of the United States for constitutional purposes.

Accordingly, many decisions hold that persons born in unincorporated
territories are not Fourteenth Amendment citizens. The Tribe-Olson
Opinion also suggests that Senator McCain obtained citizenship by
statute.

However, the only statute in effect in 1936 did not cover the Canal
Zone. Recognizing the gap, in 1937, Congress passed a citizenship law
applicable only to the Canal Zone, granting Senator McCain
citizenship, but eleven months too late for him to be a citizen at
birth.

Because Senator John McCain was not a citizen at birth, he is not a
"natural born Citizen" and thus is not "eligible to the Office of
President" under the Constitution.

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TOPIC: => John McCain says his wife Cindy is a *cunt* <= http://www.McCunt.org
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/3f20372db6a4eaab?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 8:28 pm
From: "Reality_Check©"

=> John McCain says his wife Cindy is a *cunt* <= http://www.McCunt.org

==============================================================================
TOPIC: The rats are deserting the sinking ship
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/9a71801d8419e6e7?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 8:40 pm
From: Larry in AZ

Waiving the right to remain silent, mrmcafee <"(mrmcafee)nospam"@cox.net>
said:

> Michelle Steiner wrote:
>> In article <X5hQk.4309$jr1.4072@newsfe01.iad>, mrmcafee
>> <"(mrmcafee)nospam"@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>> President Obama. Once again, President Obama. Get used to it. Obama
>>> will be president for a long time.
>>
>> I don't consider eight years to be a long time.
>
>
> It will be for those guys.

You can't lose with grace and you can't even win with grace.

You're insufferable children either way, init.

--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail

"A lack of common sense is now considered a disability,
with all the privileges that this entails."

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 8:42 pm
From: grandwazoo

Michelle Steiner wrote:
> In article <X5hQk.4309$jr1.4072@newsfe01.iad>,
> mrmcafee <"(mrmcafee)nospam"@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> President Obama. Once again, President Obama. Get used to it. Obama
>> will be president for a long time.
>
> I don't consider eight years to be a long time.
>

Time to reconsider presidential term limits.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Idiot Lipstick Pig Palin Didn't Know Africa Is A Continent, Says Fox
News
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/6fd0c4f607f15a75?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 8:42 pm
From: "Reality_Check©"

gd_dd@yahoo.com wrote:
> She also didn't know what countries are in NAFTA
> (Answer: U.S., Mexico, Canada)
>
> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/05/palin-didnt-know-africa-i_n_141653.html

==============================================================================
TOPIC: It's Over McCain is not going to win
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/f7df8200bcaf39e0?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:08 pm
From: "Morton Davis"

"James Hatten" <photonicbandgap@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:VYSdnXV-E5UH3ozU4p2dnAA@giganews.com...
> Even if we wins all the toss up states he will still be only around 227
> Electoral Votes.
>
> And he is not going to win Pennsylvania no matter what
> Rendell says about the polls being so close.
>
> And I really doubt that he will win Ohio either.
>
> Gun Owners are screwed.
>
> The only saving grace is the Democrats are terrified
> of how much political clout we have.
>
> Especially after the next 2 years of ObamaSocialist's (Change We Don't
> Want to Believe In).
>
>

It took Clinton one year to lose control of congress. I predict Obama will
repeat that. I give him one year before black leaders start calling him a
house nigger and an Uncle Tom because he didn't deliver on what they want
from him.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Yes! PRESIDENT OBAMA!
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/5a340d925e50dd03?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:11 pm
From: "Morton Davis"

"Judge Piglet" <pontius@uscb.edu> wrote in message
news:mc92h49n2cl7cdg1qcuv8hbqbgmh6cbbdd@4ax.com...
> Like it or not, America has made the turn past the color barrier.
> Whether you agree with with his agenda or not, I fell that the country
> is progressing past the bad times and hopefully will become a cohesive
> nation both within and without. Congratulations President Elect
> Obama!
>
>
>Obama was put over the top by black voters who registered solely to vote
>fore Obama because he's black and young voters whose minds had been
>polluted by liberal educators to vote for Obama solely because he's black.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: God Saves USA !!!
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/564d2e3132db7393?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:12 pm
From: "Morton Davis"

"Judge Piglet" <pontius@uscb.edu> wrote in message
news:t5d2h4pdiacub62fn07ht7318st078bli9@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:28:26 -0800 (PST), Penang <kalambong@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Dooms day is coming !
>>
>>The USA has a new ruler, a MOOOZLEM RULER !!!
>>
>>The circle is complete. Satan is at helm !!
>>
>>God saves us all !!!
>
>
> He's not Muslim, but you can leave it you don't like it.

No, he's a SOCIALIST who broke his pledge to accept public financing.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: The fat lady is singing
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/f15bf39dbbba9de8?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:13 pm
From: "Morton Davis"

"Judge Piglet" <pontius@uscb.edu> wrote in message
news:m8d2h4hf2vd6lreess6191rfgh4887c6q3@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 18:33:00 -0800 (PST), bigdog
> <jecorbett1951@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>And she is singing "Happy Days Are Here Again".
>
>
> And it sounds mighty purrrrty!
>
>
She's singing "In the Big Rock Candy Mountains".

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Up yours, GOP
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/6d2d8c1993646d2f?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:16 pm
From: "Morton Davis"

"PLMerite" <stockade@smokebombhill.com> wrote in message
news:gBbQk.78710$cU2.78393@fe04.news.easynews.com...
>
> "Schlitzy" <scheppman@thehole.org> wrote in message
> news:NbmdncA7-p8Ra43UnZ2dnUVZ_h-dnZ2d@posted.toastnet...
>>
>>
>> McCain/McBUSH and you Rightards are horror animals. You murdered 1
>> million people, there is no way to vote for you again dumbasses.
>
>
>
> Hey good luck with that "hope and change" thing.
>
>
> Regards, PLMerite
>
>
> --
>
> ''Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the
> revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at."
> - Bill Ayers
>
>
>
Isn't it interesting what pieces of shit leftloons are?

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TOPIC: Alaska Results
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/b2e53da665ece86b?hl=en
==============================================================================

== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:19 pm
From: "Morton Davis"

"BikeFan" <mistontheloch!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:gersg2$od0$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>I think it is quite clear that one of the first things that has to
> happen is that after the DoJ and FBI have been cleaned out, the new
> President has to send in a large task force of DoJ and GAO to go and
> investigate what is actually going on in Alaska. The fact that
> corruption seems to go unpunished there makes me think that Ted Stevens
> crimes and Palins ethics violations are merely the tip of the iceberg.
>
>
>
Palin was not convicted of ANYTHING, FUCKTARD. The first thing Obama should
do is fire the BATFAE for incompetence.

==============================================================================
TOPIC: Backlash in Full-Swing
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/c0b178d56b5d1b0e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:20 pm
From: "Raymond O'Hara"

On Nov 5, 6:14 am, wis...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 21:33:20 -0600, "crosstar"
>
>
>
> <cross...@nationalist.org> wrote:
> >BACKLASH IN FULL-SWING
>
> >The backlash against the Barack-Obama presidency has begun. The
> >upheaval, slated to erupt into Mount-Saint-Helens magnitude, was
> >typified by a letter to a local newspaper-editor by John Enoch, a
> >week prior to the election, demanding "Impeach Obama!" Nationalists
> >had predicted that Obama would take over at the polls, but claimed
> >that it would be the "high-water" of black-power. "Tribe," a
> >South-African Negro-blog, had conceded that Obama in the White
> >House "means an uprising in white America." Columnist Bill Dupray
> >called Nationalists the "proxy for the rest of racist America."
>
> >Columnist Pat Buchanan predicted the onslaught of the backlash "when
> >the people realize what has happened to them." Richard Barrett said
> >that "the revolt, the revolution" had been unleashed, which would
> >turn the nation completely upside down, from being minority-dominated
> >to majority-ruled. But, just how would such a turnabout transpire?
> >Arianna Huffington tried to quell the uprising by suggesting that
> >Nationalists be killed, but she was too late. Mark Potok tried to
> >downplay the backlash, by claiming that only "200,000" were involved,
> >but no one was listening. Despite "Google" reports that the top-ten
> >search-engine hits are on "assassinate Obama" and various plots
> >having already emerged, Nationalists are calling for a "peaceful
> >transition," along the lines of the "velvet-revolution," which
> >toppled Communism at the ballot-box in the Soviet Union.
>
> >Nationalists said that the on-going breakdown in law-and-order will
> >exacerbate, when the economy collapses and Obama is unable to
> >"fix" it, as well as when Obama tries to carry on the occupation of
> >Afghanistan and many of his own cadre defects. Jury-nullification
> >of attempts to override the Bill of Rights under the Patriot Act,
> >coupled with white-flight and across-the-board ostracism of
> >African-usurpation, will bring the pot to a boil.
>
> >Other prognostications include an early Obama impeachment, the
> >demise of the Republican Party, the retaking of the Democratic Party
> >by whites and food or other riots erupting. Particularly unsettling to
> >the new "establishment" is the emerging of young and dynamic leaders,
> >such as Kyle Bristow, a Republican elected-official, who burned a
> >McCain T-shirt in public, and Randy Gray, a GOP-delegate, who
> >campaigns against immigration. Gray told Nationalists to "keep me
> >posted," as he shakes up politics in Michigan and inspires others to
> >replace despotism with democracy.
>
> >To unsubscribe from Crosstarlist:
> >http://www.nationalist.org/contact/unsubscribe.php
>
> >To subscribe to Crosstarlist:
> >http://www.nationalist.org/contact/subscribe.php
>
> >To comment on Crosstarlist:
> >http://www.nationalist.org/contact/comment.php
>
> >To read this article on the Crosstar website:
> >http://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2008/110101.html#2
>
> >Crosstarlist
> >Trademark/service of nationalist.org
> >Not necessarily Crosstarlist views
> >Copyright 2008 The Nationalist Movement- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

barry hackney sucks dick

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TOPIC: Another question from my friend Jeff...
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/2088844cd1ae8f86?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:21 pm
From: "Morton Davis"

"Rick Corey" <rick.cory@verizon.not> wrote in message
news:ges782$1eh$1@dailyplanet.umd.edu...
> He has said that enforcing existing laws, keeping guns away from
> _criminals_ is the right approach. Hold him to his word, maybe?
>
> Some decades ago, that was also the NRA's position.
>
>
It still is, asshole.

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TOPIC: MISSION ACCOMPLISHED: Pro-illegal-alien-invasion neocon imperialist
Bush wrecks GOP
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/e7e5d43cb9e6118e?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 9:22 pm
From: "Morton Davis"

<hpope@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:94a1e701-9a7d-4c69-b527-31becc2a7272@40g2000prx.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 5, 2:49 am, "GeorgeWashingtonAdmi...@adelphia.com"
<guybanniste...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Democratic Sen. Barack Obama captured
> key electoral votes in states won by President
> Bush in 2004, fueling his decisive victory."
>
> - from: "America proclaims: Obama is 'the One'
> Key 'red' states swing Democrat, paving
> way for decisive victory"
>
> http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80029
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> What Would the U.S.A.'s Founding Fathers Do?
>
> If the representatives of the people betray their constituents,
> there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that
> original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive
> forms of government ... The citizens must rush tumultuously to
> arms, without concert, without system, without resource;
> except in their courage and despair ...
>
> The natural strength of the people in a large community, in
> proportion to the artificial strength of the government, is greater
> than in a small ... the people, without exaggeration, may be said
> to be entirely the masters of their own fate.
> -- Alexander Hamilton
>
> We in America do not have government by the majority.
> We have government by the majority who participate.
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good
> conscience to remain silent.
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of
> the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe
> depositories.
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms.
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to
> keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves
> against tyranny in government.
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> As our enemies have found we can reason like men, so now
> let us show them we can fight like men also.
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> Don't talk about what you have done or what you are going
> to do.
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the
> Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask. Act! Action will
> delineate and define you.
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> Merchants have no country. The mere spot they stand on
> does not constitute so strong an attachment as that from which
> they draw their gains.
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied
> corporations which dare already to challenge our government to
> a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our
> liberties than standing armies.
> -- Thomas Jefferson
>
> Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms of government
> those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations,
> perverted it into tyranny.
> -- Thomas Jefferson

The illegal-alien loving John McCain fades from the scene. Good
riddance!

Still a fucktard troll.

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A Non-IT Industry Multinational company is looking for the following professionals at their Chennai Office

Profile of "Procurement Manager"

1. Qualification : Graduate/Post-Grad./MBA/Eng. with specialization in Supply Chain

2. Age : 30 – 35 yrs

3. Location : Chennai

4. E Experience : at least 10 years in Global Supply Chain/Procurement Management
with MNCs including managing Factory related operations (own/third Party preferably in the FMCG Sector

This role The role is meant to support the company's UK, Dubai and Indian businesses and will report to Group COO based in the UK. The role The role will be expanded to US and German offices based on performance

The Ke The key role is:

· R Responsible for entire Supply Chain activities of UK, Dubai and India

· V Vendor development, Cost Re-engineering and New Product Development

· N Negotiations including Payment Terms

· M Materials planning incl. materials movement & co-ordination on logistics & warehousing

· In Inventory Management

· Im Support procedures & policies etc

· Ri Risk Management – Security of Supply, Business interruption and Hedging Key Commodity prices

Job res Responsibilities include:

· Implement appropriate sourcing strategies to control the purchased material costs and to assure an adequate source

of s of Supply

o Investigate, and re-engineer where appropriate, all processes and systems within procurement and logistics to deliver the procurement strategy and action plan.

o Research and evaluate product/commodity areas, including tracking of commodity prices, and make recommendations for standardization and additions to Qualified Products List

o Drive Cost Re-engineering - Understand, track, and forecast the key cost drivers and market factors for assigned products/commodities.

· Identification of potential suppliers, qualifications, negotiating commercial terms in the relevant spend areas (eg. Cans, Bottles – Tin/Aluminium/Plastic, Glass Bottles, Soap Noodles, Talc, Aerosol etc.) and assessment to ensure competitiveness, high quality and service levels.

o Develop and implement an approved supplier list, introducing vendor assessment techniques to measure performance and quality of supply.

o Open Book accounting - keep data of all Bill of Materials

· Develop cross-functional teams to understand the business needs and evaluate suppliers to ensure that procurement strategy remains aligned with business objectives

o Identifying and implementing global/regional opportunities for consolidation

o Implementing globally applicable KPIs, reporting templates and communication procedures.

· Provide managerial support to the team, improve performance and customer service

o Lead monthly and weekly planning meetings and demonstrate continuous effort to improve operations, decrease turnaround times, and streamline work processes across all product lines.

o Executing key initiatives such as supplier rationalization, working capital improvement and lead time reduction with the supply base.

o Manage inventory levels inline with business plan and budgetary targets.

· Proactively co-ordinate/interface with the Marketing/Technical team for:

o Product Innovation/New Product Development needs - from concept to delivery and product cost build up.

o Delivery of Packaging Savings

· Management of Supply Chain Risks – Continuity of Supply, Commodity Hedging, Business Interruption etc:

o Ensure visibility of total supply network in terms of nature and location of Inventory and flow of goods, capacities on suppliers and logistics/transportation providers.

o Perform at periodical intervals, on-site supplier evaluations and screen suppliers to identify high potential disruptors.

o Comprehensively track and detect the nature of disruption, prioritize them, take necessary actions and prevent recurrence of similar events.

o Understand the controllable risks within the Supply Chain and manage them accordingly.

o Design contingency plans to minimize the potential adverse effects of risks that are outside of the business control eg. Enforce Hedging mechanism, as applicable, on key volatile supply chain items.

Other r Responsibilities include:

· Document and improve key global Supply Chain(SC) processes and Contract Management operations

· Gather information about supply markets, analyze and evaluate the impact on sourcing and supplier management strategies.

· I Interface with IT team/Shared Services team to prioritize key initiatives to support SC improvement plans

· Be the point of escalation/resolution for procurement related issues internally, and with suppliers

· Continue to think innovatively in addressing the business needs

· Responsible for both own and departmental management, development, training and recruitment.

Traits r

raits re Traits required

· Strong analysis and business process capability, Six Sigma / Lean approaches helpful - have a track record in continuous improvement and best practices;

· Ability to plan, organize and manage multiple, complex projects and changing priorities.

· Identify challenges, make sound decisions under pressure, and work effectively in a global environment with extended works hours as and when required.

· Excellent interpersonal and negotiation skills, with ability to work closely with and influence others (product managers, suppliers as well as line manager, peers and direct reports).

· Strong leadership and team building capabilities

· Knowledge of vendor assessment methods and Strong financial and commercial awareness.

· Profound knowledge of Standard ERP systems

· Good technical skills, including confident use of MS Office applications (Word, Power-point, Excel)

· Ability to travel as required

If you meet the above skills and experience & are interested,please forward your resume alongwith the current/expected salary.minimum time requd to join,passport details etc.,

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[t-i] Re: "Bullet train coming to California ballots" csmonitor 4/9 (CHSRA, H$R v. ..)

2008-11-05T19:33:00.000-08:00

The "catch" in all this: Note the 800 miles, twice the distance LA-San Fran.
Also even from the initial $10 billion, nearly $one billion for commuter
rail, connections etc.
This is simply superimposing a new rail net in the State, part of which is
already there and underused. Ave speed will be slightly higher, and nowhere
near competitive with airlines. Wait till shoes off security hits HSRail.

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To: <transport-innovators@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 8:04 PM
Subject: [t-i] "Bullet train coming to California ballots" csmonitor 4/9
(CHSRA, H$R v. ..)

It looks like the massive Sound Transit Prop. 1
in Seattle is also going to win approval - but no final tally yet.
----------------------------------------------------------
>Calif. voters approve $10B bond for bullet trains
>
>http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hPp5hvBKhiO1W5qP1obrGVE9vWVwD94925900
>
>LOS ANGELES (AP) Nov 5 — California voters are green-lighting the nation's
>most ambitious high-speed rail system, approving a nearly $10 billion
>bond to put speeding bullet trains capable of topping 200 mph between
>the state's major metropolitan areas.
>
>The measure, which passed with 52 percent support Tuesday, will fund
>the first phase of what is projected to be a $45 billion, 800-mile
>project built with state, federal, local and private money.
>
>Backers sold the proposal as an innovative alternative to soaring
>airfares and gas prices. In the closing weeks of the campaign, they
>touted estimates that it would create nearly 160,000 construction-
>related jobs and 450,000 permanent jobs.
>
>"In our state, transportation is always a big issue," said Mark
>Baldassare, president of the nonpartisan, nonprofit Public Policy
>Institute of California. "A lot of people have a sense that maybe that
>(bullet train) is something I can use at some point. It's something
>they can relate to."
>
>The first phase of the rail line would link Anaheim, Los Angeles,
>Fresno and San Francisco. Planners eventually want to include
>Sacramento, San Diego and Oakland.
>
>The $9.9 billion proposition includes $9 billion for bullet trains and
>$950 million for conventional commuter and intercity rail, including
>trains to connect travelers with the high-speed system.
>
>"Californians decided to reduce our oil dependence, to build
>alternatives to traffic and long airport lines, and to help solve
>global warming. Californians were also voting to boost the economy,"
>said Emily Rusch of the California Public Interest Research Group.
>
>High-speed rail lines are well established in Europe and Japan, but
>not the United States. Amtrak's Acela Express, linking Boston, New
>York and Washington, D.C., is the only U.S. rail line that tops the
>125 mph considered "high speed" by international standards, and even
>that line averages far slower over the course of its full run.
>
>California's plan still needs support from federal and local
>governments and private investments. Supporters say that with enough
>money, the first trains could be running in six years and the entire
>system could be completed by 2020.
>
>Opponents also fear the measure might not pay for itself and require
>ongoing subsidies. An environmental group, meanwhile, has sued over
>the proposed route from the Central Valley to the San Francisco Bay
>area.
>
>California's effort has been 14 years in development, since it was
>first recommended by a commission in 1994.
>
>On Apr 9, 2008, at 9:50 AM, MagNews wrote:
>
> > LOS ANGELES_ ".. In November, Ms. Jardine will be able to vote on a
> > 220-m.p.h. bullet train, which would zip serenely from San Francisco
> > to Los Angeles in 2.5 hours. .. Yearly grosses from the rail's
> > starter line from San Francisco, to San Jose, to Merced, Fresno,
> > Bakersfield, and Anaheim would be $3 billion according to the
> > authority <www.cahighspeedrail.ca.gov>, producing $1.2 billion in
> > payback profit to bond and private investors. The train would also
> > go up to Sacramento and down to San Diego via Riverside. .. Critics
> > say the funding and profit-margin projections are smoke and mirrors,
> > put out by politically sophisticated backers. .." - Governor
> > Schwarzenegger is supportive, but a $16 billion state deficit may
> > inspire voters to say 'no' in November.
> >
> > http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0409/p02s03-usgn.html
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