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* JOIN THE NRA !! - 7 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/699e80c618392072?hl=en
* obama victory is impressive - 4 messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/7baec16f892beec4?hl=en
* could sean hannity be kicked out - 3 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/790ea9fb886bd6cf?hl=en
* Obama = Change = Socialism = A Bad Deal - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/9a6a58c065f999b9?hl=en
* John R. Lott, Jr. - WORKERS, BE WARY - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/0712c87a0185bfcc?hl=en
* 76 days and counting... - 6 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/71e83acf6d97bf61?hl=en
* Alaska Results - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/b2e53da665ece86b?hl=en
* The divide between Britain's social classes.... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/f929a791e0b2a158?hl=en
* Man gets 33 years for rape.... - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/d06dd6193902e075?hl=en

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TOPIC: JOIN THE NRA !!
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/699e80c618392072?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 4:56 pm
From: Judge Piglet

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:53:13 -0600, Fiftycal@abcnnbcbs.com wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:23:03 -0800 (PST), kuikahi
><datalines2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Fuck you..you lost..deal with it.
>>You can suck Bush's cock when he leaves office.
>
>Nah. We don't "swing" that way. You do know that Obammy opposes
>queer marriage, don't you? That leaves you and your butt buddies
>outted in the cold.

Ultimately, it's not up to him.

Actually I'd be worse off as part of the NRA cult. They serve no
useful purpose.

Já alguma vez dançou com o diabo ao luar?

The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius Pigglesworth, presiding

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:00 pm
From: Tim Miller

Judge Piglet wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:53:13 -0600, Fiftycal@abcnnbcbs.com wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:23:03 -0800 (PST), kuikahi
>> <datalines2@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Fuck you..you lost..deal with it.
>>> You can suck Bush's cock when he leaves office.
>> Nah. We don't "swing" that way. You do know that Obammy opposes
>> queer marriage, don't you? That leaves you and your butt buddies
>> outted in the cold.
>
>
> Ultimately, it's not up to him.
>
> Actually I'd be worse off as part of the NRA cult. They serve no
> useful purpose.

Doesn't matter. You're STILL the only one that "swings" that
way, forger.

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:24 pm
From: kuikahi

On Nov 5, 1:55 pm, General Savage <savage_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Join the NRA !!
>
> That is, if you are not already a member. It's $35 per year, and you
> get a nice monthly magazine.
>
> With almost 4 million members, they have had an enormous positive
> effect on 2nd amendment rights.
>
> Add another 10 to 20 million members, and we might be able to thwart
> the Obama/Reid/Pelosi fascist agenda.
>
> Oh, and did I say ....
> Join the NRA !!
>
> "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder"

General Savage is a Bush cocksucker...you lost...deal with it

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:27 pm
From: Judge Piglet

On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:24:55 -0800 (PST), kuikahi
<datalines2@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Nov 5, 1:55 pm, General Savage <savage_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Join the NRA !!
>>
>> That is, if you are not already a member. It's $35 per year, and you
>> get a nice monthly magazine.
>>
>> With almost 4 million members, they have had an enormous positive
>> effect on 2nd amendment rights.
>>
>> Add another 10 to 20 million members, and we might be able to thwart
>> the Obama/Reid/Pelosi fascist agenda.
>>
>> Oh, and did I say ....
>> Join the NRA !!
>>
>> "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder"
>
>General Savage is a Bush cocksucker...you lost...deal with it

I think the NRA needs to get ready to 'deal' with the new
administration.

Já alguma vez dançou com o diabo ao luar?

The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius Pigglesworth, presiding

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:39 pm
From: Tim Miller

Judge Piglet wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:24:55 -0800 (PST), kuikahi
> <datalines2@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Nov 5, 1:55 pm, General Savage <savage_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Join the NRA !!
>>>
>>> That is, if you are not already a member. It's $35 per year, and you
>>> get a nice monthly magazine.
>>>
>>> With almost 4 million members, they have had an enormous positive
>>> effect on 2nd amendment rights.
>>>
>>> Add another 10 to 20 million members, and we might be able to thwart
>>> the Obama/Reid/Pelosi fascist agenda.
>>>
>>> Oh, and did I say ....
>>> Join the NRA !!
>>>
>>> "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder"
>> General Savage is a Bush cocksucker...you lost...deal with it
>
> I think the NRA needs to get ready to 'deal' with the new
> administration.
>

You don't "think". And you'd be wrong.

Again.

The "new administration" is going to have to get ready to deal
with the NRA.

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:41 pm
From: General Savage

On Nov 5, 7:23 pm, kuikahi <datalin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 1:55 pm, General Savage <savage_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Join the NRA !!
>
> > That is, if you are not already a member. It's $35 per year, and you
> > get a nice monthly magazine.
>
> > With almost 4 million members, they have had an enormous positive
> > effect on 2nd amendment rights.
>
> > Add another 10 to 20 million members, and we might be able to thwart
> > the Obama/Reid/Pelosi fascist agenda.
>
> > Oh, and did I say ....
> > Join the NRA !!
>
> > "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder"
>
> Fuck you..you lost..deal with it.
> You can suck Bush's cock when he leaves office.

You are more proof that liberalism is a very serious mental disorder.

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:42 pm
From: General Savage

On Nov 5, 8:24 pm, kuikahi <datalin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 1:55 pm, General Savage <savage_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Join the NRA !!
>
> > That is, if you are not already a member. It's $35 per year, and you
> > get a nice monthly magazine.
>
> > With almost 4 million members, they have had an enormous positive
> > effect on 2nd amendment rights.
>
> > Add another 10 to 20 million members, and we might be able to thwart
> > the Obama/Reid/Pelosi fascist agenda.
>
> > Oh, and did I say ....
> > Join the NRA !!
>
> > "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder"
>
> General Savage is a Bush cocksucker...you lost...deal with it

You are more proof that liberalism is a very, very serious mental
disorder.

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TOPIC: obama victory is impressive
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/7baec16f892beec4?hl=en
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== 1 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:24 pm
From: famabba

BobR wrote:

> On Nov 5, 3:54 pm, "Schlitzy" <schepp...@thehole.org> wrote:
>> "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:4911ce30$0$5503$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
>>
>>
>>
>>> it has to be acknowledged that obama rose from a humble beginning, grew
>>> up
>>> in an environement where crime was pervasive. and yet he managed to
>>> come
>>> unscathed from it all, and rose to the top among the best educated. his
>>> fast
>>> rise in the hostile world of politics is less stunning but more
>>> popular. he
>>> deserves everybody's respect, and mr. mccain's concession speech was
>>> exemplary.
>>> well, what next? seems like obama is rightly motivated to do the right
>>> thing. but i think biden has it right when he said obama will be tested
>>> severely. my only concern is that obama would flood usa with millions
>>> of
>>> muslims - wittingly or unwittingly - as an expresson of his gratitutde.
>>> i
>>> would hate to see usa getting checkmated in its own home by a large
>>> islamic
>>> political base as it has happened in europe: britian already has sharia
>>> courts. netherland and belgium are already choked up, and even france
>>> is
>>> well headed that way. today only usa and israel speak for freedom. for
>>> how
>>> long is the question given the declining white population in usa.
>> We actually want you Repukes to move out of US, go to Guam so you can
>> fuck each other over there Punk!- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Sorry craps but we are here to stay and we will remind you of every
> fucking promise that you break and of every lie that you tell. We
> will also promise to give Obama the same respect and support that all
> you craps have given Bush for the last eight years.

The ditzy slut "harmony" was for a couple of years just as annoying as a
right-wing nut-job as he is in his current role of left wing retard,
before he decided to "go both ways". That said, Bush had the respect and
support of the majority of the people, but he frittered it away in a
very un-Presidential way. 2002 was the last year I gave that man my support.

== 2 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:27 pm
From: Fiftycal@abcnnbcbs.com

On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:00:58 -0800 (PST), Old Pif <OldPif@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Nov 5, 4:22 pm, Stray Dog <sdog2...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, harmony wrote:
>> > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:59:15 -0600
>> > From: harmony <a...@hotmail.com>
>> > Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
>> > talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
>> > Subject: Re: obama victory is impressive
>>
>> > what obama promised - and can very likely deliver - is sound economic
>> > "plumbing" at the wall street.
>>
>> I don't want to be pessimistic, but the mess is very very serious and
>> there are still a lot of special interests that don't want ANY form of
>> govt regulation, but they all have their hands held out for money, no
>> matter where it comes from.
>>
>
>There are a lot of enthusiasm out there. Might be totally unfounded.
>People would like "to take part". How they could? What Joe the Plumber
>can contribute other than do his plumbing well, on time and at low
>cost. But whether he will have customers?

Got any "IMPEACH OBAMA" stickers yet?

== 3 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:30 pm
From: Judge Piglet

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:27:23 -0600, Fiftycal@abcnnbcbs.com wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 16:00:58 -0800 (PST), Old Pif <OldPif@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Nov 5, 4:22 pm, Stray Dog <sdog2...@sdf.lonestar.org> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008, harmony wrote:
>>> > Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 14:59:15 -0600
>>> > From: harmony <a...@hotmail.com>
>>> > Newsgroups: alt.politics.republican, alt.politics.democrat,
>>> > talk.politics.guns, alt.computer.consultants, soc.culture.indian
>>> > Subject: Re: obama victory is impressive
>>>
>>> > what obama promised - and can very likely deliver - is sound economic
>>> > "plumbing" at the wall street.
>>>
>>> I don't want to be pessimistic, but the mess is very very serious and
>>> there are still a lot of special interests that don't want ANY form of
>>> govt regulation, but they all have their hands held out for money, no
>>> matter where it comes from.
>>>
>>
>>There are a lot of enthusiasm out there. Might be totally unfounded.
>>People would like "to take part". How they could? What Joe the Plumber
>>can contribute other than do his plumbing well, on time and at low
>>cost. But whether he will have customers?
>
>Got any "IMPEACH OBAMA" stickers yet?

Got a life yet, NRA thug?

¿Por qué el Dios del Oriente Medio tiene que ser el Dios para todos?
¿No es eso un poco arrogante?

The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius Pigglesworth, presiding

== 4 of 4 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:32 pm
From: Old Pif

On Nov 5, 9:27 pm, Fifty...@abcnnbcbs.com wrote:

>
> Got any "IMPEACH OBAMA" stickers yet?
>

No, why? Give him a chance.

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TOPIC: could sean hannity be kicked out
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/790ea9fb886bd6cf?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:24 pm
From: famabba

harmony aka pradipshit parekh wrote:

> this man sean hannity is pure poison. he lives a midevil life where things
> are just black-n-white. his long programs are filled with hate daily. can
> america take 4 more years of hannity? with obama victory, sean will go on
> and on with his poison for next 4 years although he is a sorry irrelevant
> figure post election.
>
> kick sean hannity out. talk shows must be limited to just one session a
> week. the same silly ranting every day makes for paranoia.

How different are Hannity's rants from the poison that you fill up the
newsgroups with every single day, you cancerous pustule? Your endless
nonsensical ranting does nothing but annoy and aggravate decent people.
Your liberal donations of your wifes' earnings to the saffron lunatics
of the VHP and Bajrang Dal do nothing but maim, kill and rape innocent
human beings. It is truly an affront to the idea of the United States of
America that a toxic canker such as you is even permitted to live in
this country.

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:52 pm
From: Barack Obama

Goober wrote:

> On Nov 5, 12:11 pm, "harmony" <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>this man sean hannity is pure poison. he lives a midevil life where things
>>are just black-n-white. his long programs are filled with hate daily. can
>>america take 4 more years of hannity? with obama victory, sean will go on
>>and on with his poison for next 4 years although he is a sorry irrelevant
>>figure post election.
>>
>>kick sean hannity out. talk shows must be limited to just one session a
>>week. the same silly ranting every day makes for paranoia.
>
>
> Guess you forgot about that little old thing called The First
> Amendment. What a bonehead you are.

The 1st & 2nd amendment will be the first part of the constitution that
I eliminate.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:09 pm
From: "Schlitzy"

"harmony" <aka@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4911d3de$0$5492$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net...
> this man sean hannity is pure poison. he lives a midevil life where
> things
> are just black-n-white. his long programs are filled with hate daily.
> can
> america take 4 more years of hannity? with obama victory, sean will go
> on
> and on with his poison for next 4 years although he is a sorry
> irrelevant
> figure post election.
>
> kick sean hannity out. talk shows must be limited to just one session a
> week. the same silly ranting every day makes for paranoia.
>

You should kick him out, before you surrender to us.

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TOPIC: Obama = Change = Socialism = A Bad Deal
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/9a6a58c065f999b9?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:42 pm
From: shafferdon@gmail.com

On Nov 3, 6:28 am, "HERMANM666" <hermanm...@excite.com> wrote:
> ENJOY YOUR NEW FUTURE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!http://objllc.com/USSA.htm
>
> <shaffer...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:42bbf519-35dd-46ed-a258-b2f3eeddf314@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> On Nov 2, 8:29 pm, Fred Thompson wrote:
>
> > If socialism is truly what some of you dumb asses want with the
> > bullshit talk from the mouth of a liar, Barack Hussein Obama, then
> > that is what you deserve. Unfortunately, all of America will pay for
> > such a poor choice on election day. Socialism does not work, has
> > never worked, and will again not work. Have we not learned from the
> > lessons of others, the form of government Barack Hussein Obama wants,
> > simply does not work. Democrats in this election are relying on
> > skewed truth to convince, or lure, voters into something they will
> > never realize. It is a classic bait and switch, advertise this,
> > provide something else. Redistribution is not good for this country.
>
> > Make the right choice on election day, cast your vote for a true
> > American, John McCain.
>
> LoL Yes because we've done so well with George W Bush the past 8 years
> compared to the socialist Bill Clinton??? The last 16 years have
> taught us that the country runs best when everyone is making money,
> not just the top 5%..You don't have a clue what socialism is, but keep
> reciting Sean Hannity's talking points maybe someone will listen. Hey
> Canada might take you on November 5th?

Looking forward to our new future. Reason, logic, and scientific
thought will now govern policy making. Saying "God wants the people
of Iraq to be free" will no longer be an acceptable justification of
war...

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:05 pm
From: FACE

On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 17:42:50 -0800 (PST), in atl.general,
shafferdon@gmail.com, wrote

>On Nov 3, 6:28 am, "HERMANM666" <hermanm...@excite.com> wrote:
>> ENJOY YOUR NEW FUTURE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!http://objllc.com/USSA.htm
>>
>> <shaffer...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:42bbf519-35dd-46ed-a258-b2f3eeddf314@s1g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> On Nov 2, 8:29 pm, Fred Thompson wrote:
>>
>> > If socialism is truly what some of you dumb asses want with the
>> > bullshit talk from the mouth of a liar, Barack Hussein Obama, then
>> > that is what you deserve. Unfortunately, all of America will pay for
>> > such a poor choice on election day. Socialism does not work, has
>> > never worked, and will again not work. Have we not learned from the
>> > lessons of others, the form of government Barack Hussein Obama wants,
>> > simply does not work. Democrats in this election are relying on
>> > skewed truth to convince, or lure, voters into something they will
>> > never realize. It is a classic bait and switch, advertise this,
>> > provide something else. Redistribution is not good for this country.
>>
>> > Make the right choice on election day, cast your vote for a true
>> > American, John McCain.
>>
>> LoL Yes because we've done so well with George W Bush the past 8 years
>> compared to the socialist Bill Clinton??? The last 16 years have
>> taught us that the country runs best when everyone is making money,
>> not just the top 5%..You don't have a clue what socialism is, but keep
>> reciting Sean Hannity's talking points maybe someone will listen. Hey
>> Canada might take you on November 5th?
>
>Looking forward to our new future. Reason, logic, and scientific
>thought will now govern policy making. Saying "God wants the people
>of Iraq to be free" will no longer be an acceptable justification of
>war...

Who used that logic? Back it up with a mainstream media report.
Some mideast muslim minister is not a valid backup -- well, it probably is
to you, but not the rest of the world......

BTW, who was it again who instituted a US policy of regime change in Iraq
in 1998?
Was it the Democrat Bill Clinton? "The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
(Public Law 105-338) [1] (codified in a note to 22 USCS § 2151) is a
United States Congressional statement of policy calling for regime change
in Iraq; it was signed into law by President Bill Clinton."

Well?

What reasons were given for war in Iraq in 2002?
This resolution was passed by the house and the senate.
The vote was 296-133 in the House and 77-23 in the Senate, so it passed.

~~~

For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
October 2, 2002

Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces
Against Iraq

Whereas in 1990 in response to Iraq's war of aggression against and
illegal occupation of Kuwait, the United States forged a coalition of
nations to liberate Kuwait and its people in order to defend the national
security of the United States and enforce United Nations Security Council
resolutions relating to Iraq;

Whereas after the liberation of Kuwait in 1991, Iraq entered into a United
Nations sponsored cease-fire agreement pursuant to which Iraq
unequivocally agreed, among other things, to eliminate its nuclear,
biological, and chemical weapons programs and the means to deliver and
develop them, and to end its support for international terrorism;

Whereas the efforts of international weapons inspectors, United States
intelligence agencies, and Iraqi defectors led to the discovery that Iraq
had large stockpiles of chemical weapons and a large scale biological
weapons program, and that Iraq had an advanced nuclear weapons development
program that was much closer to producing a nuclear weapon than
intelligence reporting had previously indicated;

Whereas Iraq, in direct and flagrant violation of the cease-fire,
attempted to thwart the efforts of weapons inspectors to identify and
destroy Iraq's weapons of mass destruction stockpiles and development
capabilities, which finally resulted in the withdrawal of inspectors from
Iraq on October 31, 1998;

Whereas in 1998 Congress concluded that Iraq's continuing weapons of mass
destruction programs threatened vital United States interests and
international peace and security, declared Iraq to be in "material and
unacceptable breach of its international obligations" and urged the
President "to take appropriate action, in accordance with the Constitution
and relevant laws of the United States, to bring Iraq into compliance with
its international obligations" (Public Law 105-235);

Whereas Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of
the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf
region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its
international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess
and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability,
actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and
harboring terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq persists in violating resolutions of the United Nations
Security Council by continuing to engage in brutal repression of its
civilian population thereby threatening international peace and security
in the region, by refusing to release, repatriate, or account for
non-Iraqi citizens wrongfully detained by Iraq, including an American
serviceman, and by failing to return property wrongfully seized by Iraq
from Kuwait;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its capability and
willingness to use weapons of mass destruction against other nations and
its own people;

Whereas the current Iraqi regime has demonstrated its continuing hostility
toward, and willingness to attack, the United States, including by
attempting in 1993 to assassinate former President Bush and by firing on
many thousands of occasions on United States and Coalition Armed Forces
engaged in enforcing the resolutions of the United Nations Security
Council;

Whereas members of al Qaida, an organization bearing responsibility for
attacks on the United States, its citizens, and interests, including the
attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, are known to be in Iraq;

Whereas Iraq continues to aid and harbor other international terrorist
organizations, including organizations that threaten the lives and safety
of American citizens;

Whereas the attacks on the United States of September 11, 2001 underscored
the gravity of the threat posed by the acquisition of weapons of mass
destruction by international terrorist organizations;

Whereas Iraq's demonstrated capability and willingness to use weapons of
mass destruction, the risk that the current Iraqi regime will either
employ those weapons to launch a surprise attack against the United States
or its Armed Forces or provide them to international terrorists who would
do so, and the extreme magnitude of harm that would result to the United
States and its citizens from such an attack, combine to justify action by
the United States to defend itself;

Whereas United Nations Security Council Resolution 678 authorizes the use
of all necessary means to enforce United Nations Security Council
Resolution 660 and subsequent relevant resolutions and to compel Iraq to
cease certain activities that threaten international peace and security,
including the development of weapons of mass destruction and refusal or
obstruction of United Nations weapons inspections in violation of United
Nations Security Council Resolution 687, repression of its civilian
population in violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 688,
and threatening its neighbors or United Nations operations in Iraq in
violation of United Nations Security Council Resolution 949;

Whereas Congress in the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against
Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1) has authorized the President "to use
United States Armed Forces pursuant to United Nations Security Council
Resolution 678 (1990) in order to achieve implementation of Security
Council Resolutions 660, 661, 662, 664, 665, 666, 667, 669, 670, 674, and
677";

Whereas in December 1991, Congress expressed its sense that it "supports
the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of United Nations
Security Council Resolution 687 as being consistent with the Authorization
of Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution (Public Law 102-1)," that
Iraq's repression of its civilian population violates United Nations
Security Council Resolution 688 and "constitutes a continuing threat to
the peace, security, and stability of the Persian Gulf region," and that
Congress, "supports the use of all necessary means to achieve the goals of
United Nations Security Council Resolution 688";

Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act (Public Law 105-338) expressed the sense
of Congress that it should be the policy of the United States to support
efforts to remove from power the current Iraqi regime and promote the
emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime;

Whereas on September 12, 2002, President Bush committed the United States
to "work with the United Nations Security Council to meet our common
challenge" posed by Iraq and to "work for the necessary resolutions,"
while also making clear that "the Security Council resolutions will be
enforced, and the just demands of peace and security will be met, or
action will be unavoidable";

Whereas the United States is determined to prosecute the war on terrorism
and Iraq's ongoing support for international terrorist groups combined
with its development of weapons of mass destruction in direct violation of
its obligations under the 1991 cease-fire and other United Nations
Security Council resolutions make clear that it is in the national
security interests of the United States and in furtherance of the war on
terrorism that all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions be
enforced, including through the use of force if necessary;

Whereas Congress has taken steps to pursue vigorously the war on terrorism
through the provision of authorities and funding requested by the
President to take the necessary actions against international terrorists
and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or
persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks
that occurred on September 11, 2001 or harbored such persons or
organizations;

Whereas the President and Congress are determined to continue to take all
appropriate actions against international terrorists and terrorist
organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who
planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorist attacks that
occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such persons or organizations;

Whereas the President has authority under the Constitution to take action
in order to deter and prevent acts of international terrorism against the
United States, as Congress recognized in the joint resolution on
Authorization for Use of Military Force (Public Law 107-40); and

Whereas it is in the national security of the United States to restore
international peace and security to the Persian Gulf region;

Now, therefore, be it resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives
of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SEC. 1. SHORT TITLE.

This joint resolution may be cited as the "Authorization for the Use of
Military Force Against Iraq".

SEC. 2. SUPPORT FOR UNITED STATES DIPLOMATIC EFFORTS

The Congress of the United States supports the efforts by the President
to--

(a) strictly enforce through the United Nations Security Council all
relevant Security Council resolutions applicable to Iraq and encourages
him in those efforts; and

(b) obtain prompt and decisive action by the Security Council to ensure
that Iraq abandons its strategy of delay, evasion and noncompliance and
promptly and strictly complies with all relevant Security Council
resolutions.

SEC. 3. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.

(a) AUTHORIZATION. The President is authorized to use the Armed Forces of
the United States as he determines to be necessary and appropriate in
order to

(1) defend the national security of the United States against the
continuing threat posed by Iraq; and

(2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council Resolutions
regarding Iraq.

(b) PRESIDENTIAL DETERMINATION.

In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a)
to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon there
after as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such
authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives
and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful
means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security
of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is
not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security
Council resolutions regarding Iraq, and

(2) acting pursuant to this resolution is consistent with the United
States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions
against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including
those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed
or aided the terrorists attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001.

(c) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS. --
(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION. -- Consistent with section 8(a)(1)
of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is
intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning
of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.

(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS. -- Nothing in this resolution
supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution.

SEC. 4. REPORTS TO CONGRESS

(a) The President shall, at least once every 60 days, submit to the
Congress a report on matters relevant to this joint resolution, including
actions taken pursuant to the exercise of authority granted in section 2
and the status of planning for efforts that are expected to be required
after such actions are completed, including those actions described in
section 7 of Public Law 105-338 (the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998).

(b) To the extent that the submission of any report described in
subsection (a) coincides with the submission of any other report on
matters relevant to this joint resolution otherwise required to be
submitted to Congress pursuant to the reporting requirements of Public Law
93-148 (the War Powers Resolution), all such reports may be submitted as a
single consolidated report to the Congress.

(c) To the extent that the information required by section 3 of Public Law
102-1 is included in the report required by this section, such report
shall be considered as meeting the requirements of section 3 of Public Law
102-1.

~~~

You're stupid.

FACE

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TOPIC: John R. Lott, Jr. - WORKERS, BE WARY
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/0712c87a0185bfcc?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:22 pm
From: "Cole Firearms Inc."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11042008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/workers__be_wary_136830.htm
Article published Tuesday, November 4, 2008, at New York Post.
WORKERS, BE WARY

By John R. Lott, Jr.

WOULD you like elections without secret ballots? To most Americans, the
notion is absurd. But, if Barack Obama becomes president, secret ballots
seem destined to end for at least one type of election: union
certifications.

The reasons for secret ballots are obvious. Not everyone feels
comfortable making his or her political positions public; many would
rather vote without fear of offending or angering someone else. Secret
balloting essentially ended an old abuse, vote buying, in US elections.

Yet Obama promises to sign into law the so-called Employee Free Choice
Act - which would end secret-ballot elections when it comes to
unionization of workplaces.

Unionization is now a two-step process: When 50 percent of workers in a
company sign statements requesting a unionization vote, that merely sets
up a second stage, where workers vote by secret ballot on whether to
unionize. Under the "card-check" system, however, unionization would be
certified as soon as half the workers had signed cards stating that they
favor union representation.

In other words, a worker can now placate union supporters by signing a
statement saying he wants a union, but then vote the other way when
protected by the secrecy of the voting booth.

Unions now win about 60 percent of certification elections. The rules
change would not only make that 100 percent - adding 500-plus new
unionized shops a year - but also ensure that unions seek many more
certifications. You can see why the AFL-CIO calls the Employee Free
Choice Act its "million-member mobilization."

Unions are desperate to increase membership, which has been falling for
decades - from 35 percent of the private-sector workforce in the 1950s
to 8.2 percent in 2007.

Big Labor is making an all-out push to get this passed, having budgeted
$360 million on this year's election, $200 million more than in 2004.
The Service Employees International Union alone is spending $75 million
this year - and committed to making 10 million phone calls to Congress
early next year to ensure the bill gets enacted.

Obama claims that strengthening unions is good because unions will "lift
up the middle-class in this country once more." If so, why are these
very people voting against unions?

In fact, unionization virtually always raises some workers' pay at the
expense of others. (In particular, companies typically have to
compensate for the higher payroll costs by using fewer employees.) They
also equalize wages within jobs - preventing harder working, more
productive employees from earning more than less productive ones.

And those aren't the only problems. Protecting teachers unions from
competition comes at the expense of students. Protecting workers from
trade competition comes at the expense of customers and even other
workers. (If you protect steel workers from competition, for example,
the price of US-made cars rises relative to foreign-made ones.)

Sen. George McGovern, the 1972 Democratic presidential nominee, has
broken with his own party over card-check. In an ad opposing the bill,
he says, "It is hard to believe that any politician would agree to a law
denying millions of employees a right to a private vote." McGovern is so
concerned that he has let the ad be targeted against Democrats
nationally as well as in seven states with close Senate races.

Obama may feel that card-check will help US workers, or he may simply
believe he needs to reward Big Labor for its support. Either way, ending
secret-ballot union votes is guaranteed to make the country - and most
workers - poorer.

*John Lott is the author of Freedomnomics and a senior research
scientist at the University of Maryland.

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TOPIC: 76 days and counting...
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/71e83acf6d97bf61?hl=en
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== 1 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:24 pm
From: "Cole Firearms Inc."

Benj wrote:

> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>
> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
> backyard...
>
> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
> something to do.
>
>

Are the terrorists going to attack in 76 days?

And if they do, is obama responsible?

I say maybe and yes.

== 2 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:25 pm
From: "Cole Firearms Inc."

Judge Piglet wrote:

> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:19:55 -0800 (PST), Benj <bjacoby@iwaynet.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>>
>>Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>>backyard...
>
>
>>After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>>"security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>>"gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>>something to do.
>>
>
>
> He will fight gun crime. Burying your guns is going to make you look
> very foolish. You need to learn to not overreact like some hyper
> child. Gun crime IS going to be fought, with or without your
> cooperation.

I choose without!

== 3 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:29 pm
From: Judge Piglet

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:24:31 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
<colefirearms11@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Benj wrote:
>
>> President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>>
>> Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>> backyard...
>>
>> After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>> "security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>> "gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>> something to do.
>>
>>
>
>Are the terrorists going to attack in 76 days?
>
>And if they do, is obama responsible?
>
>I say maybe and yes.

Of course you would.

¿Por qué el Dios del Oriente Medio tiene que ser el Dios para todos?
¿No es eso un poco arrogante?

The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius Pigglesworth, presiding

== 4 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:29 pm
From: Judge Piglet

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:25:13 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
<colefirearms11@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>Judge Piglet wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:19:55 -0800 (PST), Benj <bjacoby@iwaynet.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>>>
>>>Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>>>backyard...
>>
>>
>>>After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>>>"security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>>>"gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>>>something to do.
>>>
>>
>>
>> He will fight gun crime. Burying your guns is going to make you look
>> very foolish. You need to learn to not overreact like some hyper
>> child. Gun crime IS going to be fought, with or without your
>> cooperation.
>
>I choose without!

Does that matter?

¿Por qué el Dios del Oriente Medio tiene que ser el Dios para todos?
¿No es eso un poco arrogante?

The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius Pigglesworth, presiding

== 5 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:30 pm
From: Judge Piglet

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:25:13 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
<colefirearms11@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

People are nothing to you. Human life is expendable. The killing can
go on and you'll look the other way. The only thing dear to your
heart is your gun. That's unfortunate for you.

¿Por qué el Dios del Oriente Medio tiene que ser el Dios para todos?
¿No es eso un poco arrogante?

The Semi-Honorable Judge Pontius Pigglesworth, presiding

== 6 of 6 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:32 pm
From: "Cole Firearms Inc."

Judge Piglet wrote:

> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:25:13 -0600, "Cole Firearms Inc."
> <colefirearms11@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Judge Piglet wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 10:19:55 -0800 (PST), Benj <bjacoby@iwaynet.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>President-elect Obama. Inauguration is 20 January 2009.
>>>>
>>>>Which gives 76 days to stock up on guns and ammo and bury it in the
>>>>backyard...
>>>
>>>
>>>>After that Obama has already promised to spend as much money on a
>>>>"security" Gestapo as we currently spend on the military. Fighting
>>>>"gun crime" and "taking guns off the street" will give them all
>>>>something to do.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>He will fight gun crime. Burying your guns is going to make you look
>>>very foolish. You need to learn to not overreact like some hyper
>>>child. Gun crime IS going to be fought, with or without your
>>>cooperation.
>>
>>I choose without!
>
>
>
> People are nothing to you. Human life is expendable. The killing can
> go on and you'll look the other way.

Not true, I would stop and take pictures. I have quite a collection.

The only thing dear to your
> heart is your gun. That's unfortunate for you.

It may not be the only thing, but it is in the top 5!

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TOPIC: Alaska Results
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/b2e53da665ece86b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:32 pm
From: nys999

bw@barrk.net (Blackwater) wrote in
news:4911b252.11684312@news.east.earthlink.net:

> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:48:11 -0500, BikeFan
> <mistontheloch!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Blackwater wrote:
>>> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 05:27:02 -0500, BikeFan
>>> <mistontheloch!@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think it is quite clear that one of the first things that has to
>>>> happen is that after the DoJ and FBI have been cleaned out, the new
>>>> President has to send in a large task force of DoJ and GAO to go
>>>> and investigate what is actually going on in Alaska. The fact that
>>>> corruption seems to go unpunished there makes me think that Ted
>>>> Stevens crimes and Palins ethics violations are merely the tip of
>>>> the iceberg.
>>>
>>> I chanced upon a 'street interview' of two Alaskan women
>>> a reporter came upon in San Fran. They agreed that Alaskans
>>> have "low expectations" for any of their politicians. So,
>>> in short, Alaskans just don't give a shit. The pols don't
>>> bother them and they don't bother the pols.
>>>
>>> So who are we to tell 'em otherwise ? That's the purpose
>>> of a US 'state' ... it's a place where the locals can
>>> kinda do things THEIR way.
>>>
>>>
>>No. There should be no convicted criminals serving in our legislation
>>anywhere, anytime.
>
> Bill Clinton was impeached ... did you complain about
> his continued service, hmmmm ? :-)

Duh...Hey Stupid....an impeachment is a indictment,
not a conviction...

>
>>Not as long as they are allowed to control money or
>>influence decisions involving money.
>
> That's for the Alaskans to decide. Not you, not
> the state of Illinois (speaking of criminal pols)
> and not Barack Obama.

Ahhh, but the Senate is allowed to expell a convicted
felon.

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TOPIC: The divide between Britain's social classes....
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/f929a791e0b2a158?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:34 pm
From: "_ G O D _"

Families mourn 5 victims
Atlanta, GA, USA
A body that washed ashore near Key Biscayne, Fla.,
was the fifth victim from a boat carrying migrants that
ran aground off Miami last week....
http://www.ajc.com/services/content/printedition/2008/11/04/nation.html

Couple may face charges in beating
Springfield, MO, USA
The victim declined medical attention, the release
said, but told police he had been assaulted after
agreeing to help his girlfriend pick up her second....
http://www.news-leader.com/article/20081104/NEWS01/811040369/1007/NEWS01

20 held by SF police in spate of robberies
San Francisco, CA, USA
The 31-year-old victim had just left his home when
a dark green Jeep Cherokee pulled up. Five suspects
emerged from the Jeep and one pointed a gun at the ...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/11/04/BAHE13TJ1I.DTL

Chippewa police nab hotel beating suspect
Eau Claire, WI, USA
One victim was struck with a metal pipe. The other
victim also was struck numerous times with a similar
object. It appears the two victims had casual....
http://www.leadertelegram.com/story-ros.asp?id=BI836P1JGF7

Victim vows to leave state if suspect released
Gary, IN, USA
Darlene Johnson-Watson listened quietly as the
judge read charges against the man accused of
beating her, then ramming her car with his as
she tried ...
http://www.post-trib.com/news/lake/1258485,gassault.article

Fishtown man held for trial in racial beating
Philadelphia, PA, USA
The victims, Levi Lee and Bryson Mills, both 22 and
from North Philadelphia, testified at the hearing that
they had been set upon by a group of white males....
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/local/20081104_Fishtown_man_held_for_trial_in_racial_beating.html

Sentenced handed down in Wayland beating
Kalamazoo, MI, USA
The prosecutor argued that it was the second teen
sentenced who had recruited the first girl and that
she pulled the victim's hair and repeatedly....
http://www.wwmt.com/articles/wayland_1355289___article.html/mich_down.html

DA: Sister will testify that Mass. girl was beaten
Prosecutors in Massachusetts say the younger
sister of a girl who suffered a severe brain injury
will testify that her stepfather pushed the child....
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jXP3TWk0cL4CC54x9lq4CNvAGuPQD9488L4O1

Man accused of beating estranged girlfriend with a space heater
Charleston,WV,USA
Holstein then pushed Kimberly Gibson onto the floor, and after she stood up
he pushed her again into a chair, causing injury, the complaint said. ...
http://www.dailymail.com/mostRecent/200811040158

Nupur addresses social disparity
Dhaka, Bangladesh
"To address the urgency of minimising the disparity
between the classes, I've tied one clothe to another.
All children should get the same privileges," she ...
<http://www.thedailystar.net/story.php?nid=61866>

The Big Question: Has the divide between Britain's social classes ...
London, England, UK
Institute for Fiscal Studies produced a paper
which suggested that the disparity between
incomes is at the second-highest level ever...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/the-big-question-has-the-divide-between-britains-social-classes-really-narrowed-989660.html

Online Election Coverage Goes Mainstream
Darien, CT, USA
The disparity created by the new model of fundraising
has reopened the debate over campaign finance reform.
Anyone who has watched television in the past....
http://www.serverwatch.com/news/article.php/3782526

Choking the Workers' Voice
New Delhi, New Delhi, India
The rapidly widening economic disparity and the awful
inequality accentuate the economic imbalance and
generate social antagonism, engendering deep anger....
http://www.mainstreamweekly.net/article1007.html
--
_____________________________________________________

I intend to last long enough to put out of business all COck-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

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"The army that will defeat terrorism doesn't wear uniforms, or drive
Humvees, or calls in air-strikes. It doesn't have a high command, or
high security, or a high budget. The army that can defeat terrorism
does battle quietly, clearing minefields and vaccinating children. It
undermines military dictatorships and military lobbyists. It subverts
sweatshops and special interests.Where people feel powerless, it
helps them organize for change, and where people are powerful, it
reminds them of their responsibility." ~~~~ Author Unknown ~~~~
___________________________________________________
--

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TOPIC: Man gets 33 years for rape....
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics.guns/browse_thread/thread/d06dd6193902e075?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 6:40 pm
From: "_ G O D _"

Teenage Somali rape victim stoned to death for adultery
Sydney, Australia
... Nations' Children Fund has shown alarm over the
rights of children and women in Somalia, following
the stoning there of a 13-year-old rape victim....
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24605151-2703,00.html

Nun rape: TI parade on 10 Nov
Kolkata, India
BHUBANESWAR
The sub divisional judicial magistrate, Balliguda in
Kandhamal district has issued notices to the rape
victim nun to remain present....
http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=9&theme=&usrsess=1&id=229602

Head priest held for minor's rape
India
The police have arrested Ishwar following a medical
test on the victim, confirming the rape. A case of rape
has been registered against him at the Shahdara....
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Delhi/Head_priest_held_for_minors_rape/articleshow/3673822.cms

Minister's son held in Goa rape case
Hindustan, India
"The state machinery is trying its best to ensure
that Rohit is not arrested," counsel for the victim,
who is 14, Aires Rodrigues had told HT on....
http://www.hindustantimes.com/redir.aspx?ID=62654f6f-1685-4e65-8136-9eed0bb2d682

Man gets 33 years for rape
Seattle, USA
The victim had suffered brain injuries in her 20s
in a car wreck that killed her husband. She was
sexually assaulted at a facility in Sublimity....
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/386300_rape05.html?source=mypi

UNICEF DEPLORES STONING OF CHILD RAPE VICTIM
Mogadishu, Somalia
... Christian Balslev-Olesen, A child was victimized
twice - first by the perpetrators of the rape and then
by those responsible for administering justice....
http://www.somaliweyn.org/pages/news/Nov_08/4Nov28.html

Detectives distribute fliers about rape
Daily, CO, USA
The victim says she was forced to the ground. She was
held down and sexually assaulted. The exact location of
the crime remains unclear....
http://www.dailycamera.com/news/2008/nov/04/detectives-distribute-fliers-about-rape/
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I intend to last long enough to put out of business all COck-suckers
and other beneficiaries of the institutionalized slavery and genocide.

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