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TOPIC: You may not have thought this thru...
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.callahans/browse_thread/thread/41020d3db3e87b61?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 4:37 pm
From: D.J.

On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:07:23 -0800, "Brian" <brianarc@hotmail.com>
wrote:
]So now the US of A will be known as the "Great Obama Nation".
]
]That oughta go over big in the Middle East...

Why should it be known as that ? You make no sense.

D.J.
--
http://star.drivein-jim.net/ Starship deck plans
http://crestar.drivein-jim.net/ Oct, 2008 AD&D pages

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 4:53 pm
From: The TheatrElf

D.J. <solosam75@cableone.net> wrote in
news:72f4h4hqv2d4uh12bf4v2mmd8b7keuhun9@4ax.com:

> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:07:23 -0800, "Brian"
<brianarc@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>]So now the US of A will be known as the "Great Obama Nation".
>]
>]That oughta go over big in the Middle East...
>
> Why should it be known as that ? You make no sense.

It's a pun. "Great Abomination." It's what the jihadists have
been calling the USA for decades.

--
Xjahn
The TheatrElf
http://manormaniac.blogspot.com/

Half the trick is knowing the CyberPunks from the CyberPinks.

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TOPIC: Yes, we can.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.callahans/browse_thread/thread/6bd4e0d7fc41fcce?hl=en
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== 1 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 4:46 pm
From: Alison Hiltabidle

After serious thinking Marten Kemp wrote :
> Jette wrote:
>> Marten Kemp wrote:
>>> Barack Obama is President-Elect.
>>
>> I wonder if the Secret Service is hiring new staff?
>>
> I'm too old, but I can see myself taking a bullet for that guy.

Why?

== 2 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 4:56 pm
From: saavik

Alison Hiltabidle wrote:
> After serious thinking Marten Kemp wrote :
>> Jette wrote:
>>> Marten Kemp wrote:
>>>> Barack Obama is President-Elect.
>>>
>>> I wonder if the Secret Service is hiring new staff?
>>>
>> I'm too old, but I can see myself taking a bullet for that guy.
>
> Why?
>
>
Oh, maybe because he is capable of doing great things? (read that
whichever way you wish)

Margo

== 3 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:04 pm
From: Alison Hiltabidle

saavik explained :
> Alison Hiltabidle wrote:
>> After serious thinking Marten Kemp wrote :
>>> Jette wrote:
>>>> Marten Kemp wrote:
>>>>> Barack Obama is President-Elect.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if the Secret Service is hiring new staff?
>>>>
>>> I'm too old, but I can see myself taking a bullet for that guy.
>>
>> Why?
>>
>>
> Oh, maybe because he is capable of doing great things? (read that whichever
> way you wish)
>
> Margo

or not. Neither candidate gave me warm fuzzies.

== 4 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:16 pm
From: MajorOz

On Nov 5, 7:04 pm, Alison Hiltabidle <ahiltabi...@verizon.net> wrote:
> saavik explained :
>
>
>
> > Alison Hiltabidle wrote:
> >> After serious thinking Marten Kemp wrote :
> >>> Jette wrote:
> >>>> Marten Kemp wrote:
> >>>>> Barack Obama is President-Elect.
>
> >>>> I wonder if the Secret Service is hiring new staff?
>
> >>> I'm too old, but I can see myself taking a bullet for that guy.
>
> >> Why?
>
> > Oh, maybe because he is capable of doing great things? (read that whichever
> > way you wish)
>
> > Margo
>
> or not. Neither candidate gave me warm fuzzies.

No matter who we voted for, we must be proud of the historic moment.

Juan Williams said it, IMO, best:

"Kids in this country are told that each of them can grow up to be
president. Black kids never saw themselves as part of that group.
Today they do"

cheers

oz, who didn't vote for him, but wish him all the best

== 5 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:51 pm
From: Captain Jack

Jette <bosslady@scotlandmail.com> wrote in news:p3lQk.83081$E41.42269
@text.news.virginmedia.com:

> Marten Kemp wrote:
>> Barack Obama is President-Elect.
>>
>
> I wonder if the Secret Service is hiring new staff?
>

Nah. He'll just have to get used to wearing full Kevlar body armor anytime
he's out in public...

The Cap'n

== 6 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:52 pm
From: Captain Jack

Marten Kemp <marten.kemp@earthlink.net> wrote in news:TJWdnbpO_-
HKqI_UnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@earthlink.com:

> Jette wrote:
>> Marten Kemp wrote:
>>> Barack Obama is President-Elect.
>>
>> I wonder if the Secret Service is hiring new staff?
>>
> I'm too old, but I can see myself taking a bullet for that guy.
>

I agree, but only to keep Biden out of the top spot.

The Cap'n

== 7 of 7 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:53 pm
From: Captain Jack

Summer Storms <summerbythelakeside@gRANT.DOTnet> wrote in
news:0is3h4p7gc7pf4r92lnknht71fmn2293gi@4ax.com:

>
>>Barack Obama is President-Elect.
>
> Yes, We Did!!!!
>
> *happydance*

And just think: Only 1460 days until the 2012 elections!

The Cap'n

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TOPIC: WORMS: Racism or context?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.callahans/browse_thread/thread/d8f92d9c66256c6b?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 4:51 pm
From: The TheatrElf

John W. Vinson <jvinson@STOP_SPAM.WysardOfInfo.com> wrote in
news:3pe4h4letpff34g8p9fvtiahaau62ek5tq@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:12:41 -0600, The TheatrElf
> <xjahn@netscape.net> wrote:
>
>>M Blaze Miskulin <blaze@geekniche.com> wrote in
>>news:0z8Qk.40$6X1.33@newsfe01.iad:
>>
>>> The TheatrElf wrote:
>>>
>>>> People are trying to ban Huckleberry Finn for its language.
>>>
>>> Actually, my response to the threat was "I suggest you don't
>>> read any Mark Twain".
>>>
>>>
>>
>>The sad part is that they are probably already working to
>>remove his books from their local schools.
>
> That movement has been underway for a century or so.

But it didn't used to be black people doing it.

--
Xjahn
The TheatrElf
http://manormaniac.blogspot.com/

The lion and the calf shall lie down together but the calf won't
get much sleep. (Woody Allen)

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TOPIC: Liberties, today, yesterday
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.callahans/browse_thread/thread/a0aa704e5988c3e4?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 4:53 pm
From: MajorOz

On Nov 5, 12:54 pm, Summer Storms <summerbythelakes...@gRANT.DOTnet>
wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 11:44:57 -0800 (PST), MajorOz
>
>
>
> <Majo...@centurytel.net> wrote:
> >Although it may not fall in the class of "liberties', there is much
> >lost, in my opinion, due to the nanny aspects of society and the
> >increasing tolerance of nuisance lawsuits. viz:
>
> >1. Kids can't swim in the "old swimmin hole" of the creek that runs
> >through town, because someone may get hurt.
> >2. You can't drive out into (much of) the US National Forest and
> >camp. (yes, I know there are slobs; punish them, don't set the forest
> >off limits)
> >3. Diving boards have disappeared from municipal swimming pools,
> >because someone may get hurt.
> >4. Municipalities require bicyclists -- and sometimes tricyclists --
> >wear helmets.
> >5. Cruising is being outlawed by the same folks who bitch about the
> >kids running out to the woods and drinking.
> >6. Can't smoke in a bar -- IN A BAR ! I can understand setting aside
> >some non-smoking fern bars for the birkie set, but telling the steel
> >worker on his way home from work that he can't light up while downing
> >a boilermaker is pettiness.
> >7. No fireworks around her; no sir; might blow your fingers off.
> >8. Show me your papers, comrade.
>
> >cheers (I hope)
>
> >oz, sliding into bunker mentality
>
> I wear Birkenstocks, don't like cigarette smoke, and wouldn't have the
> first idea what to do in a "fern bar".

You drink -- usually white wine.

>Where, exactly, am I supposed
> to go to have a drink? (Other than in here, of course?)

To a non-smoking bar. Just don't legislate them all such.

cheers

oz, non-smoker for 35 years but usually sits in the smoking section of
restaurants, as he is less likely to have to put up with undisciplined
children

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:01 pm
From: MajorOz

On Nov 5, 2:52 pm, Chris Zakes <donti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:48:25 -0500, an orbital mind-control laser
> caused Leigh Claffey <lclaf...@comcast.net> to write:
>
>
>
> >Jette wrote:
> >> David wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:06:42 -0800, Saint Shaffer <StShaf...@aol.com>
> >>> typed furiously:
>
> >>> [...]
> >>>> Fireworks injuries to kids? Because they were a regular fact of life
> >>>> in every community, and not funny at all.
>
> >>> Funny but I can't remember _any_ kid receiving more than a slight burn
> >>> from fireworks during my youth.
>
> >> I do. A schoolfriend was blinded - and she wasn't even playing with the
> >> fireworks. :-(
>
> >The story in my family was that when my uncle was a small boy he went
> >and picked up a firecracker someone had just tossed (lit)
> >and he would've lost a hand (or worse) except that my grandfather grabbed
> >it away from him (and lost the tips of two fingers 'cause it went off as he
> >threw it).
>
> >So, yeah, fireworks are dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.
>
> >But I don't buy the total ban thing either (which CT had for most of my
> >life).
> >I think you should be able to go and get a free (must issue) permit if you
> >want to use the 'hard stuff' and maybe have to attend an orientation or
> >something so you know how to keep it safe,
>
> If I had buckets of money, I'd buy a piece of land out in the country
> with a stock tank or other body of water on it and every 4th of July
> and New Year's, I'd do a "shoot your own" event. Rent a couple of
> porta-cans, charge maybe five bucks a carload for people to come out
> and shoot off fireworks, and donate most of the money to the local
> volunteer fire department (maybe have a couple of their guys on hand,
> just in case things got out of hand.)

Interesting.

I don't have buckets (or spoonfulls) of money, but do have 63 acres
with a pond in the middle. At my annual July 4th reunion, the hordes
of family, who have come from a number of states -- and each of which
have brought a trunk load or pickup load of fireworks -- are joined by
friends and neighbors (no charge) while we shoot them off from dusk
'till, usually, well after midnight. Kids and old folks (me included)
are sitting around various campfires, drinking a variety of things and
roasting weenies and making Smoores, while the adventurous among us
lights them off. Members of the VFD are usually here.
No fires or accidents in seven years.

cheers

oz, too cheap to buy them but provides the venue
Y'all come.

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:25 pm
From: Clovis Man

Chris Zakes <dontivar@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:10:41 -0700, an orbital mind-control laser
>caused Clovis Man <george.ruch@3lefties.com> to write:
>
>>MajorOz <MajorOz@centurytel.net> wrote:
>>>Although it may not fall in the class of "liberties', there is much
>>>lost, in my opinion, due to the nanny aspects of society and the
>>>increasing tolerance of nuisance lawsuits. viz:
>>>
>>>1. Kids can't swim in the "old swimmin hole" of the creek that runs
>>>through town, because someone may get hurt.
>>[...]
>>>3. Diving boards have disappeared from municipal swimming pools,
>>>because someone may get hurt.
>>
>>Liability issues. Careless kids, careless and litigious parents.
>
>Maybe. Or maybe it's just paranoid municipal authorities thinking they
>*might* get sued.
^^^^^^^^
Have been, for failure to prevent stupid behavior that parents
should have dealt with years before.

>>>4. Municipalities require bicyclists -- and sometimes tricyclists --
>>>wear helmets.
>>
>>Thank the testosterone-poisoned teens of the world for that one.
>
>Nonsense. We've had testosterone-poisoned teens since the beginning of
>time. Why is that only in the past twenty or thirty years have we
>gotten so nanny-state-ish?

True. Now add some parents who, unlike you, aren't willing to
apply the appropriate corrective action[0] when their kid does
something stupid, and look anywhere else for someone to blame.
See 3 above.

Example: School truancy is something of a problem around here,
with something like 17 parents convicted in the past year.
http://www.cnjonline.com/news/clovis_30713___article.html/woman_convicted.html
For some reason, these parents haven't been able or willing to
get through to their kids.
<quote>
District Attorney Matt Chandler said of the 16 parents previously
convicted since the program began more than a year ago, only one
has been convicted a second time.
</quote>

Another example: Shortly after my niece started driving, one of
her high school "friends" decided she would try to "surf" the
hood of my niece's car ("Hey, watch this!"). Short version: My
niece gets spooked, tries to stop, "friend" ends up under the
front wheel of the car and has some bruises and soft tissue
injuries, with time in hospital. Come time for court, my niece
stands up and takes what comes, and her "friend"'s dad gets the
charges dropped and won't stand up for my niece in court.

>I've had several serious head injuries from bike wrecks--at least two
>concussions and one fractured skull (after which I bought a helmet and
>*always* wear it on my bike.) I insist that my kids wear helmets when they ride,

It only took me one ride without a helmet. It took my eyes a
week to forgive me (dust, meet hard contact lenses).

>but I am adamantly opposed to the government *telling* me
>that I must do so "for my own good." We know where that leads.

That seems to be the approach in New Mexico law. If you're of
age and competent, it's your business. Until then, it's law or
consequences.

[0] A full-strength dope slap[1], followed by the words "You
idiot! What the *&#$ were you thinking?" screamed at 140 dBa.

[1] http://www.cartalk.com/content/DopeSlap/technique.html
--
Clovis Man (aka George Ruch)
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishible from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke

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TOPIC: Watching the Results?
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.callahans/browse_thread/thread/9dd450165f487586?hl=en
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 4:55 pm
From: Cindy Wells

Tonnie <tonnnie@NOgmail.com> wrote in
news:7ek3h45tcq4kb00k03387tv0u11uebjfl0@4ax.com:

<snip>

> Thanks Cindy - so this time we don't need to worry, it wasn't a close
> race at all <g>
> Ok, sigh of relief here. Can I offer you a drink and some Dutch
> cheese? ;o)
>

You're welcome. Just water for me; I don't want to try the cheese today,
my day put me too close to too many other migraine triggers to try any
new foods.

Cindy Wells
(thunderstorms approaching and I spent the day in a lab with bad
fluorescent lights (flickering bulbs are worse than dead ones). This
workspace had both.)

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:57 pm
From: Wes Struebing

On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:55:05 GMT, Jette <bosslady@scotlandmail.com>
wrote:

>Erin wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have to say, the concession speech McCain is giving now, is perhaps
>> the best speech I've heard him give in the past 2 years.
>
>Interesting to hear Republican supporters now criticising the McCain
>campaign style as "what lost them the election". One man said "we
>should learn - attacks and negative stuff doesn't work".

But, but...it worked before...!

<grins> (sorry, shouldn't grin like a Cheshire Cat, either). Even
though I voted for the man, I have reservations, and I'm afraid people
are gonna have almost completely unreasonable expectations for him.

That said - the USA made real history, last night.
--

Wes Struebing

Jan. 20, 2009 - the end of an error

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TOPIC: TOAST: One More Step
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.callahans/browse_thread/thread/686612d37370074e?hl=en
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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 4:58 pm
From: saavik

Rowan Hawthorn wrote:
> saavik wrote:
>> Two meter troll wrote:
>>> On Nov 5, 9:30 am, Kevin Ahearn <Kevin.Ahe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> What does the US do now if one of those red states decides it cannot
>>>>> bear being governed by a black president, and tries to secede? Can
>>>>> your country survive a civil war in this day & age?
>>>>>
>>>> Hi, I don't believe we've met. I'm the twenty-first century, and this
>>>> is my good friend...woops, I was going to introduce you my good friend
>>>> the twentieth century, but you seem to have just missed him.
>>>>
>>>> OK, enough snark. The US doesn't do secessions anymore. A couple of
>>>> states tried it about 140 - well, almost 150 years ago, and it didn't
>>>> turn out so well for them.
>>>>
>>>> --Kevin
>>>>
>>>
>>> Keven you have apparintly not been to see Mr pacific north west. or
>>> the new try for the state of cascadia or the conch republic or several
>>> other odd things that looked /look suspiciously like succession
>>> without guns.
>>>
>> Never hear of the others, but I can assure you that the Conch
>> Republic is a healthy money-making tourist attraction in Key West.
>>
>> The only real secessionist group I've ever heard of that sounds
>> credibly scary is the AIP. I expect they have guns.
>
> Big deal. They have about 12,000 registered members. I'm pretty sure
> you could find a lot more people than that in Alaska who *oppose*
> their ideas and *also* have guns. Hell, if it came to that, you could
> raise more armed citizens in Kentucky alone than the *entire
> population* of Alaska (assuming anybody here cared enough to try and
> keep'em, which I doubt...)
>
Oh, you are probably right, but my concern is not that they might
succeed, but the damage they could do if they tried.

Margo

== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:46 pm
From: artie

In article <r692h45bus5liko28o12ng7frk50lpb284@4ax.com>, Denny Wheeler
<dennyw@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> wrote:

> Racism in the US isn't dead. But damn it, today's election dealt it a
> BIG blow. (and I'd say that, regardless of my opinion of the
> candidates)
>
> So--to the USofA, and a giant leap.
>
>
> *****CRASH!!*****
>
> -denny-

denny--

I wish I shared your optimism.

I fear it's just going to polarize the wingnuts on the right even
further. Even wilder conspiracies (than acorn) will come out of the
woodwork.

That they lost just shows they didn't pray (prey) hard enough, work
hard enough -- after all, their success in California on Prop 8 shows
that with enough money, prayers, (and lies) they can succeed.

I fear the divisiveness has only begun.

I look forward to being proven wrong.

--
Namaste--

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:55 pm
From: Larisa

On Nov 5, 8:46 pm, artie <arti...@gNOSPAMmail.com> wrote:
> In article <r692h45bus5liko28o12ng7frk50lpb...@4ax.com>, Denny Wheeler
>
> <den...@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> wrote:
> > Racism in the US isn't dead. But damn it, today's election dealt it a
> > BIG blow. (and I'd say that, regardless of my opinion of the
> > candidates)
>
> > So--to the USofA, and a giant leap.
>
> > *****CRASH!!*****
>
> > -denny-
>
> denny--
>
> I wish I shared your optimism.
>
> I fear it's just going to polarize the wingnuts on the right even
> further. Even wilder conspiracies (than acorn) will come out of the
> woodwork.
>
> That they lost just shows they didn't pray (prey) hard enough, work
> hard enough -- after all, their success in California on Prop 8 shows
> that with enough money, prayers, (and lies) they can succeed.
>
> I fear the divisiveness has only begun.
>
> I look forward to being proven wrong.

What gives me great hope, though, is that the elections do appear to
be more or less fair, and that voting does appear to do something. If
the game is rigged, no amount of fair play can defeat a cheater. But
if the game is fair, the public's minds can be changed, and it will be
reflected in the political outcomes.

I think a lot of the California no-on-8 voters were very complacent,
and underestimated the right-wing presence in that state. Heck, I
even switched my voter registration from California (where I normally
vote) to Pennsylvania because, after all, nothing bad can happen in
California, right? Wrong. We won't be as complacent now.

As for the divisiveness - the country has been divided for 8 years.
It's not at all a new phenomenon.

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TOPIC: Happy Birthday, alt.callahans
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.callahans/browse_thread/thread/f2c4711b97244604?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:28 pm
From: CanvasCanary@webtv.net (Beth Jackson)

Happy Birthday, indeed! ((:-)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The Canvas Canary"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(I love to paint, sing, am blonde & a bit flighty:)

http://www.angelfire.com/nc/canvascanary
*****************************
"Creative minds are seldom tidy." --Anon.
*****************************
"I'm out of bed, and dressed;
what more do you want?!" --Anon.

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TOPIC: looking forward...
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:30 pm
From: MajorOz

On Nov 5, 9:35 am, Tom the Alien Cat <TomTheAlien...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 5:50 am, Joyce of Pendle <pen...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Harry Mary Andruschak wrote:
> > > Erin wrote:
> > > > Assuming that McCain/Palin lose this election (it's not
> > > > official, yet <g>), I wonder how Palin's standing will be in
> > > > the party? It will be interesting to see how things go here
> > > > when she returns, defeated. Any of the patrons have experience
> > > > with a governor returning to complete a term after losing a
> > > > national election?
>
> > [Tom: Dukakis]
>
> > > I'll go you one better. Richard Nixon.
>
> > But he was governor of California *after* he lost the election
> > to JFK. Right? What did he do before he was Eisenhower's Veep?
> > I was young and living in Texas then. It's like a whole other
> > country.
>
> Nixon's path, according to Wikipedia, was "Representative" then
> "Senator", then "Vice President". Then he lost the presidency.
>
> Two years later, 1962, he lost the bid for Governor of California.
> Six years after that, he became president.
>
> * * * * *
>
> Regarding Palin again, one of my favorite bloggers, electoral-
> vote.com, said at 4am:
>
> In Alaska, Ted Stevens was miraculously leading Mark Begich by 4000
> votes with 81% reporting. If Stevens is elected to the Senate, he will
> probably be expelled in January leading to an election,

Actually, leading to Palin being called upon to appoint a
replacement. The smart move would be to appoint herself. which has
been done in other states.

> [On Nixon again, Wikipedia points out: "Nixon is the only person in
> American history to appear on the Republican Party's presidential
> ticket five times, to secure the Republican nomination for president
> three times, and to have been elected twice to both the vice
> presidency and the presidency."

Tragic man. The most savvy foreign policy president we have ever
had. Also probably the most intelligent prez of the 20th century.
Too bad his devils spoke to him in the night. Of course, being hated
by most media didn't help either.

Consensus at the time was that, if he had said: "Hell yes, I
authorized the theft. But I didn't authorize the break-in and I fired
their asses. Now, let's get on with the election", it would have
blown over (except in the NY Times).

I, however, always thought it was as stupid as stealing the plans for
the Edsel. The election was a slam-dunk.

cheers

oz, who respected Nixon for a number of reasons

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TOPIC: RIP: Michael Crichton
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== 1 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:24 pm
From: CanvasCanary@webtv.net (Beth Jackson)

Well, *drat*... (:-\

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"The Canvas Canary"
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
(I love to paint, sing, am blonde & a bit flighty:)

== 2 of 2 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:49 pm
From: Captain Jack

The Rocket Scientist <bill.the.rocket.scientist@gmail.com> wrote in
news:a0ef00c6-575a-4048-91c5-65bd364eff80@c36g2000prc.googlegroups.com:

> Bill drops a wad of assorted banknotes into the cigar box and requests
> Mike to set up the room.
>
> He announces:
>
> "Michael Crichton, author of "The Andromeda Strain" and "Jurassic
> Park," died Tuesday in Los Angeles."
>
> http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4A49B420081105

What's a Sci-Fi junky to do? Seems like all the great authors are dropping
like flies... (Hang in there, Spider; couldn't stand to lose YOU).

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< CRASH >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The Cap'n

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== 1 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:45 pm
From: Wes Struebing

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:01:33 -0800, Denny Wheeler
<dennyw@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:45:56 GMT, Canth <kwar6996@bigpond.net.au>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:47:02 -0800, Desideria
>><desideria1313@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 07:36:24 -0500, CanvasCanary@webtv.net (Beth
>>>Jackson) wrote:
>>>
>>>>What about the (imo, not-so-hard science-fiction) Zenna Henderson's "The
>>>>People" stuff?
>>>>
>>>>Very cool. :-)
>>>>
>>>
>>>So happens that a certain Denny I know bought me that book as a
>>>surprise.
>>>
>>>Already read. :-)
>>>
>>>Desideria
>>>
>>Then send him out for "Pilgrimage", "Holding Wonder", and "The
>>Anything Box". ZH wrote one of my most disturbing mental pictures,
>>that of a group of teachers & parents hunting through a yard full of
>>pebbles for the two which "look scared" (they used to be schoolyard
>>bullies).
>
>Only one she'd need is "The Anything Box"--the People are in the book
>I gifted her: _Ingathering: the Complete People Stories of Zenna
>Henderson_
>
>Hell, _I_ need a copy of "The Anything Box".
>
Gee, if you get two, I could use one, too..my ex- has all the "People"
stories...

;-)
--

Wes Struebing

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== 2 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:46 pm
From: Wes Struebing

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:14:16 -0800, Denny Wheeler
<dennyw@TANSTAAFL.zipcon.net.INVALID> wrote:

>On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:38:56 -0800, Desideria
><desideria1313@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>I know, I know, Starbucks was one of the best in Canada as well, so
>>>that's fine. Thanks ;o))
>>
>>But this is where it started, as I recall. ;-)
>
>Her Beautifulness recalls correctly.
>
She does, at that. (agreeing with Denny completely...)
--

Wes Struebing

Jan. 20, 2009 - the end of an error

== 3 of 3 ==
Date: Wed, Nov 5 2008 5:48 pm
From: Wes Struebing

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:31:45 -0500, Rowan Hawthorn
<rowan_hawthorn@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Denny Wheeler wrote:
>> On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 21:39:29 -0500, Rowan Hawthorn
>> <rowan_hawthorn@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> She's got 'em written. BTW, if you want to see a nice lady wax
>>>> ferocious, ask Annie Scarborough her opinion of Barnes & Noble. I'd
>>>> stand a bit back when so doing, though. The kindest term she has for
>>>> 'em is "evil empire".
>>>>
>>> Ooooo-kay... :-)
>>>
>>> Y'know, that's funny, because we have a Barnes & Noble within a couple
>>> miles of me, and I'm not really a big fan, either. I use it some
>>> because it's convenient and has a lot of stuff, but my preference is the
>>> Joseph-Beth on the other side of town. We have a bunch of small
>>> independent places here, but they're either used books exclusively or
>>> fairly inconvenient to get to.
>>
>> It's Annie's belief that the difficulty 'lesser' authors have in
>> getting published is directly traceable to B&N and the other
>> megachains of booksellers.
>>
>> -denny-
>
>I'm pretty sure she's right, too. I've said the same thing for years.
>And of course, it's not just books, it's pretty much *any* consumer
>products. Megachains are not interested in serving their customers,
>they're interested in turning over a buck as fast as possible *today*,
>and to hell with anything else. *Every* business needs to make a profit
>in order to survive, but huge chains seem to be loaded with people who
>not only don't know anything about the product they're selling beyond
>what they can look up on a computer terminal, they don't even have any
>interest in it.
>
I suspect that is the case, meself. I've seen more and more authors
(most of whom I think are outstanding) self-publishing. (I don't mean
vanity publishers; I DO mean self-publish (via the web, or whatever).
--

Wes Struebing

Jan. 20, 2009 - the end of an error

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